I used to sit on the 21st floor. Now I am retired

Thursday, April 13, 2006

From the frying pan to the fire

So, a demand was made that we move on. And so shall it be. I will move on.

No, I will not write for a week on Jazz (for I can't think beyond Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck for now). But about something completely different - the eternal debate between me and the Girl - Bombay vs. Delhi. The debate's going to be completely personal as I will cover topics like Food, Weather, Quizzing, Places to be in, Cleanliness of the city and traffic, People and certain X-factors that matter. (Is there anything I am missing?) For a week.

Do consider that not all of them are criteria for me. Some of them are important for her and therefore they shall be commented upon. If it's a debate in public, let me have it fair and square.

Also, some of the points I will mention will be early thoughts as I can't even begin to say that I have experienced the cities completely to pass fact-based judgement (for example, I have a good sense about Delhi suburbs, but none about Bombay beyond Bandra, except for Prithvi, Juhu beach, the airport and South Indian weddings in Mulund). Hence, everyone who cares is welcome to poke holes. At the end of the day, it's a debate I have almost once every week. Best to get to know where the flaws and strengths lie.

However, posts will start on Monday, since for three days, I am off blogging.


Blogger Falstaff said...

you call that a debate? Obviously Bombay wins. *in true hindi film dialogue mode* "mere paas sea hai. tumhare paas kya hai".

Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:25:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mumbai vs Delhi..
Were you born yesterday?

Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:46:00 PM

Blogger Mr. D said...

No, but I think this should be fun. There was a time when you had many valid points in defense of Delhi. I'm assuming you're Bombay while Girl is Delhi in this one. Yes?

Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:34:00 PM

Blogger nowheregirl said...

bombay vs dilli... yippeee... one of my fav subjects :D

Friday, April 14, 2006 2:04:00 AM

Anonymous TTG said...

Falstaff, you're just out & out WRRRRRRONNNNNGGGGGGG!

Delhi wins, by an f-ing longshot.

The Delhi Metro, Baby, is where it's at.

Oh that and the Flyovers. And the wide roads.
And winter.
And the most succulent Chicken Tikkas at The Great Kebab Factory.

Here's a poorly written post on Delhi for ya, as well:


Friday, April 14, 2006 3:00:00 AM

Anonymous TTG said...

Argh. Here's the above link in a more readable form...

Friday, April 14, 2006 3:01:00 AM

Blogger Falstaff said...

ttg: ah, the flyovers - yes, I'd forgotten about those. Hmmm. Sitting by a flyover watching the traffic or sitting by the sea watching the waves come in. Tough choice. :-). nice post btw.

Friday, April 14, 2006 4:57:00 AM

Blogger HutumpaNcha said...

My two bit to the debate: Mumbai-best, Delhi- 'beast'est...we have the 'best'buses, what do you have? blue line, white line, yellow line?? yuck
But seriously my vote goes to Mumbai, not for anything else but its people,Delhi is too wannabe, too loud.

Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:53:00 AM

Blogger dhoomketu said...

Hmmm... Just came back from Delhi. It's hot, but so is Bombay.

Falstaff: Let's see how it pans out, can't start with a bias

Anon: Yes, yesterday. Actually, long before yesterday. What's Mumbai?

Dibyo: The past is all but forgotten

Nowheregirl: Same here. :-)

Ttg: Nice post.

Hutumpancha: CNG, man. CNG. As far as wannabe is concerned, wait till I tell you my socialist story. But that's later in the day.

Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:58:00 AM

Blogger Bombay Addict said...

Bombay, Bombay, Bombay - all the way. Lets separate this from the infrastructure bit, ok ? I agree that on this count, Delhi smokes the hell out of Bombay thanks to its metroa, broader roads, more open spaces, etc. But then you should expect that, right ? It is the Capital of India man.

Now here's my do paisa worth on why Bombay smokes Delhi (it always has and always will). Four of many reasons.

1. Agree with falstaff - The sea - come on, this itself is like a colossal trump card. Marine Drive, Worli Sea Face, Band Stand, Carter, Bandra Reclamation..oh come on ! And lets not even go into why we like it. In case of any doubts, pls check these Band Stand photos on my post. Dhoomk2 - sorry, I dont like to publicise my blog on others, but I do need to back up my statements with evidence, right ? Maaf sir.

2. Local trains - Delhi-ites ka thoda phat jaata hai hamari trains dekhke. But these lifelines of Bombay are a scenic journey on their own. Just stand on the door when the train is coming out of Grant Road and going into Charni Road or later to Marine Drive- the view of the sea from there ? Or Mahim to Bandra (sure, the Mithi river stinks, but they're repairing that) hai hai maar daala. Yes, yes - traveling in the midst of thousands others sweating in summer is not a reason to love Bombay. But pls, cut me some slack on this. Is the experience of Red/blue/yellow/green-line bus travelers in Delhi any better ?

An aside - no matter how crowded the train is, you will always get a helping hand to get you in. Everyone in Bombay knows that time is money, the boss is waiting for you and that reaching late is not an option.

3. Khau gallis - endless list. From Pancham puriwala to Sardar to Bade Miya to....oh.. come on..

4. Last and most important - The people - for crying out loud man, don't we know enough of Bombay ? Now wait, I agree that the indifference and apathy of Bombayites is also disturbing - but lets leave that aside. The spirit of Bombayites is well documented so I wont go into it.

Hai hai even for asking directions, Delhi-ites are sad. I've had this experience in Delhi - I asked for directions to one place and I got at least three different versions, all leading everywhere, except where I wanted. In Bombay - if you stand at Chowpatty and ask for the directions to Band Stand you'll get it, and they will be right.

Dhoomk2 - I'll tell you what. I think a blogroll on this - Bombay v/s Delhi - will be a good idea. Here's my Rs100 on Bombay blogs smoking Delhi blogs. Any takers ?

Majaa ayega boss.

Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:30:00 PM

Anonymous Siddharth said...

Has to be Mumbai....

Monday, April 17, 2006 10:24:00 AM

Anonymous Siddharth said...

Oops, I meant Bombay...

Monday, April 17, 2006 10:25:00 AM

Blogger dhoomketu said...

Bombay Addict, blogroll is a nice idea. I wish I had the time to put it put. Maybe this weekend.

All valid points. But first time I am hearing someone put Bombay local amongst the top 4 points on why Bombay rocks. I guess someone from Delhi will now mention the DTC buses snaking around Old Fort in the evening with the sun going down behind it.

Monday, April 17, 2006 10:23:00 PM

Blogger silbil said...

sorry for going through the archives and popping comments everywhere but where is the bombay vs delhi debate?
that is my eternal favourite topic, can never have enough of it...from delhi and am based in bombay...

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:53:00 PM

Blogger Abhinav said...

Well....that makes for good reading....each city has its color..its fragrance...and you cannot compare flowers can you?
you can only afford to taste them.

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:32:00 AM

Anonymous DelhiBlogger said...

you call that a debate? Obviously Bombay wins. *in true hindi film dialogue mode* "mere paas sea hai. tumhare paas kya hai".

Tumhare paas sea hai ? Hamare paas Sheila Dikshit hai!

Did someone say bluelines ? you guys should seriously consider hopping on the new DTC low floor high capacity air conditioned buses or the metro for that matter ?

Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:16:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey the infrastructure,traffic,food etc etc only play a 25% role in the debate to decide the winner.But the majority is decided by the people.People of delhi are rude.They neithet give help nor do they expect help from any one in difficult times.On the other hand mumbaikars have a care share attitude.This is evident from the many disasters that mumbai has faced.

Monday, May 19, 2008 2:40:00 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mumbai, the commercial and financial capital of resurgent India and one of the great megapolises of the modern world is a maximum city in every sense of the word. A home to a myriad dreams, hopes and ambitions, Mumbai is a melting pot of diverse cultures, traditions, customs and influences; displaying the rich mosaic of our country.

The fabled "Mumbai Spirit" has seen the city unite not only during the natural catastrophes providing a helping hand to rank strangers but also while celebrating its joys & triumphs during festive seasons with a vigor unmatched by none.

Mumbai, a unique blend of the multi-faceted richness of varied cultures and influences is a symbol of the compelling oneness of the people of India.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:08:00 AM

Anonymous delhidilwale said...

those who support mumbai on the basis of locals is just a funny thing... at the peak times locals are like cattle filled boxes of rude mumbaikars.... and mind it i have seen them hitting each other while moving out and moving in, world's largest slums is what mumbai boast of.... or the dance cum sex bars... And those who feel there is only blueline in delhi should knw that there is also something Called DTC which is world's largest CNG operated Bus service... we don't boast like you ( your BEST service)and by 2010 it will have 5000 new low floor AC Red buses and 10000 new low floor Green buses, Everybody know of Delhi Metro... just visit Connuaght place station and compare it with your mumbai airport leave aside your foul smelling local stations with decorative slums on both sides,
and about people.... You have 2500 km of network in few straight roads,,,, Delhi have 25000 km road network, anybody can get confused in delhi,,,still whenever i asked anybody i always get a help in delhi.... since you have faced the disaster like mumbai bomb blast ... you make a hell lot of cry of your mumbaikar spirit... Delhi people don't cry like this .... for giving you a eg ... we also faced the bomb blast in 2005 before diwali.... delhi people came next day to same place in lajpat nagar or shopping without any fear... so spirit of delhi is same... Delhi has come up 7 times after total destruction this shows the spirit of Delhi, And now DELHI is the Largest City of India, we have 50000 monuments, we don't focus on only two things like mumbai money and bollywood( sex and glamour)..... we are better than you in more achieving things... like sports( Delhi alone won more medals than whole maharastra including mumbai) (Mumbai's only sport is cricket which is played by 10 nations, military), ( even in bollywood Delhi & UP actors rules)
Sea is a factor which is Mumbai's geographical advantage.... but Delhi has its advantage, it offers you more facilities than mumbai at cheaper rate with more space... ernst and young has ranked Delhi as India's no 1 in qulity of life based on 58 parameters way ahead of your boastful mumbai, you pay 25000 bucks for a 2 bhk in posh area of mumbai , IN delhi you pay 8000 for same and still have all the facilities of mumbai and even more... yes there is problem of crime in delhi,,, but compare the immigration of 650 people (including lot of lower class uneducated people )per day in delhi as compared to 225 for mumbai, and apart from that Delhi is a sprawling area of 1500 sq km as compared to 550 of mumbai... so its a state cum city to manage, and crime is mainly done by outsiders ...
Even in your so called economy comparison... Delhi is second largest in south asia after mumbai,,,( and mumbai again having more trade by sea resulted in its advantage),

And rudeness... let us not debate this... your shiv sena and MNS is doing with people of other states ( now North indians, earlier south Indians, and muslims) , they hit shops on 14th feb for not allowing to celebrate valentine's day, Mumbaikar is indifferent to all aspects of life wherever required like politics, sports, awareness since it is engaged in making money, looking for glamour, See the difference it is only because of this that 3 medals which india has woned are all from delhi, chandigarh and bhiwani... ,
Mumbai is a city which knw how to boast because of its Glamour quotient, But Delhi is a city which don't boast, People are much more helping, charming playing and dancing on the tune of Bhangra, Delhi is the Dil of INDIA from 4000 years,

Delhi has roads etc... infrastucture , i will not repeat this , apart from that Delhi is hosting 2010 commonwealth games, then formula 1 racing, then delhi is bidding for 2020 olympics, and see the development front too...
Delhi region will have Half of the multiplxes and malls of India, first mutliplex was also opened in DELHI PVR saket, Gurgaon, NOIDA and Greated NOIDA will soon take all limelight away from MUMBAI, with more space, better facilities and new govt policy...
And Delhi people is also better as they always think about Nation and celebrate National festivals like 26th jan and 15 th aug ( kite flying is still popular) in much better way than Mumbaikars who might be busy watching some bollywood dancers ignoring the national things...

Delhi offers much more than Mumbai in holistic approach, a combination of modernism and past heritage...

All mumbai cry is because its getting behind in race ..

within few years everybody will know What will be DELHI a world class city compared to city of slums sex, AIDS and garbage and your poor locals jismain jakar kisi bhee phat jayegi agar vo insaan ho hehehe poor jealous MUMBAI and its mumbaikar

Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:20:00 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya delhiwala you are correct
I want to say only one line


Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:59:00 AM

Blogger kapil said...

just to add to ur comment deliwallah,..delhi has the maximum number of millionaires in india and delhi has more number of cars than kolakata, banglore n mumbai put together,, delhi airport is the largest n busiest airport in india, now listen to this - delhi airport's boundary wall is spread around 27 kms in length

Friday, May 14, 2010 11:23:00 AM


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